Who this is for
Pastors and ministry couples
The church gets your best hours and your marriage gets what is left. You both feel it.
Leaders close to empty
You are still showing up, but there is less and less behind it, and there is no one inside the church you can safely tell.
Leaders in a transition
A new role, a hard season in the congregation, or a decision about what comes next.
Three steps, one honest direction
A private conversation
Outside your church and your denomination. You can say what is true.
A clear look
At your marriage, your family, your pace, and the boundaries that have worn thin.
A sustainable way to serve
Concrete changes, worked on between sessions, so the calling does not cost you your home.
With you from the first call.
- What is said here stays hereWe do not share what is said in a session with anyone.
- There is help paying for coachingWhen money is the reason someone never calls, another family can cover part of the cost. Ask us about sponsored coaching.
- In person or from homeMost sessions happen by phone or video. In-person sessions are available in Shawnee, Oklahoma.
We are coaches, not licensed counselors or therapists. We do not diagnose and we do not treat mental health conditions. If licensed care is what you need, we will say so plainly and help you find it.
Waymark Inc. continues the work of Dr. Jim Talley (1942–2025), who spent more than fifty years sitting with couples at the worst moment of their marriage and telling them the truth: that the way back exists, and that it is walked one honest step at a time.
Questions people ask first
Will anyone in my church know?
No. We do not share what is said in a session with anyone, and we are not part of your church or denomination.
Can my spouse join?
Yes. Many ministry leaders come as a couple, and some begin alone. Either works.
Do you work with whole leadership teams?
We also work with churches and their leaders. Tell us what you are facing in the first conversation and we will say honestly whether we are the right help.
There is a way back. Let us help you find it.
Start with one conversation, with no obligation. Tell us where you are and we will help you find the next marker on the road.
